Heavy Rain Plot Holes??? **SPOILER**?
First off I'd like to say I loved the game (although it may not seem like it lol) but my experience was soured slightly by some significant plot holes and I'm wondering if I've just missed something or if you have to have a different outcome to get some answers or if the game has just been a bit unpolished by quantic dream...
-How did Shelby kill Manfred(the antique dealer)? I saw the flashback where it shows you Shelby hitting him over the head with something but as far as I can remember you control Shelby the whole time and you stay in the front of the shop with Lauren until Manfred takes too long and you find him dead.
-Why would Shelby care the Lauren died? In my game I kicked out the window in the car before I untied Lauren so she died. Then Shelby goes to Kramer's to get revenge. But whouldn't be glad she was out of the picture as she was effectively trying to find HIM.
-When Shelby's mother whispers his name to Maddison she looks shocked but how would she even know who he is? They hadn't crossed paths.
-What happened to Ethan's wife/Shaun's mother? I know if Ethan dies she goes to the grave with Shaun but in my game Ethan and Shaun get an appartment together and she's nowhere to be seen. Are we supposed to believe she would just let her only son (who had just been rescued form certain death) leave and live with her ex-husband.
-And what I think is the biggest plot hole - What's with Ethan's blackouts? I know he has blackouts because of the fact he was in a coma and the trauma of his son dieing but why does he always wake up in that street and more importantly why does he have the origami pieces in his hand?
Like I said I really loved the game, I thouht it was a great change of pace to the usual shoot 'em ups and the like and I'm hoping there are simple answers to my problems rather than plot holes.
Also did anyone jump out of the window in Shelby's appartment in the fire scene? If so does Maddison die like she says she would?
Thanks.
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"How did Shelby kill Manfred(the antique dealer)? I saw the flashback where it shows you Shelby hitting him over the head with something but as far as I can remember you control Shelby the whole time and you stay in the front of the shop with Lauren until Manfred takes too long and you find him dead."
It’s exactly how you see in in the flashback. When Shelby goes to "check up on him" he actually just goes to kill him. Checking up on Manfred was just a cover up to actually going to kill him. I knew there was something suspicious when Shelby told Lauren not to take the files.
"Why would Shelby care the Lauren died? In my game I kicked out the window in the car before I untied Lauren so she died. Then Shelby goes to Kramer’s to get revenge. But whouldn’t be glad she was out of the picture as she was effectively trying to find HIM."
My guess is also just for a cover up. Just to pretend he cared. Yet, I saved her anyways and I still had the same scene. It was probably blood lust because he was trying to kill Shelby. Also, I think his son is also a mimic killer so he wanted to get rid of that. Or something like that.
"-When Shelby’s mother whispers his name to Maddison she looks shocked but how would she even know who he is? They hadn’t crossed paths."
To me, this is the only real plot hole in the game. Yet, maddison is a journalist. She might know who he is and plus the old lady did whisper it to her. We don’t know what exactly she said to maddison so it’s pretty much up to your imagination. Maybe this is why they are coming out with a prequel. Maybe Maddison knows Shelby in some way.
"-What happened to Ethan’s wife/Shaun’s mother? I know if Ethan dies she goes to the grave with Shaun but in my game Ethan and Shaun get an appartment together and she’s nowhere to be seen. Are we supposed to believe she would just let her only son (who had just been rescued form certain death) leave and live with her ex-husband."
I think this is goes to your own imagination. This is what I miss in movies and games. They forgot to let some of your imagination run wild. I got the same ending as you too. I think Ethan and his wife are still divorce but they still share Shaun through custody. Another thought I had is that Ethan’s wife just moved far away or back to her parents grieving over her son. Also, if you didnt know. That apartment was the same apartment in Indigo Prophecy. =D
"-And what I think is the biggest plot hole – What’s with Ethan’s blackouts? I know he has blackouts because of the fact he was in a coma and the trauma of his son dieing but why does he always wake up in that street and more importantly why does he have the origami pieces in his hand?"
I think Maddison’s knowledge of Shelby is a bigger plot hole than this. Again like with Ethan’s wife, let your imagination run loose with this one. It is very rare that people get blackouts and still walkabout without knowing who they are or remembering anything. I think waking up in that same street was just foreshadowing, he only waked up on that street twice and the first one was just his hallucination. The second time it was real. The origami piece was of course probably from Shelby. Shelby is a very well planned person and he probably watches all his victim’s fathers. Shelby probably stuck the origami in Ethan’s hand when he was blacked out.
"Also did anyone jump out of the window in Shelby’s appartment in the fire scene? If so does Maddison die like she says she would?"
IF your talking about the window behind the desk, no. I didn’t do that. I jumped out the window from the kitchen though and she survived.